In episode 42 of Wake Up to Wealth, Brandon Brittingham interviews Branden Hudson, the Owner of SBY MMA and Fitness and Champ Talk Podcast, as they discuss the dangers of seeking external validation and the necessity of self-acceptance. They also touch on the impact of mental health, the importance of reaching out for help, and the duality of being both a savage and empathetic in life and business.
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Yeah, so, you know, a lot of things kind of couple things talk about today. But so last week, I keynoted a spring break. Shout out to spring. Benson, my homie. Love that woman. Fucking absolute savage, but heart of gold. And I mean, I just I went to another place last week, man. It was just I went to I went to a different level that I've never gone to to speak. And I kind of want to talk about this today because this will relate to you. And I think that it's Like everybody has this fucking savage inside of them that sometimes, you know, I know you got to teach fighters how to go find this, right? And, um, and like last week, like, you know, I had to go there, like I had to go there internally. And I think, uh, people sometimes are scared of it. I think people are sometimes scared to live in their authenticity. Uh, I think people are sometimes just scared to go to that dark side. Uh, but like the savage is when you were 90 pounds. In this world, you lived in the jungle, and back in the day, you had to go in the fucking jungle and kill something to feed your family. Like, that shit is in you and it's wired in you. And, you know, over-generational, over-generational, it's been calmed down in people. And it's a mechanism to conquer fear. Right. And I know you believe in this. So, you know, I want to talk about that a little bit today. And if you wouldn't mind, like, I mean, you have to make people go find that to get the ring, which is the same thing. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, and they didn't get in the ring without me doing it myself. You know, so when I was competing and fighting, you know, when I started, it wasn't I wasn't the best. I wasn't the most technical. I didn't have the most experience, but I knew that I could outwork them, which is similar to business. And I knew that I had a dog in me that I was ready to die in there. And to your point, you know, to be able to get to that, that level on that, that, that I like to call like the flow state. Cause that's what, like you see it in so many different spaces. So to get to that flow state, you know what I mean? You got to just forget about everything that anybody is saying, doing whatever. And I think that that's where we get so lost in translation because, you know, everybody's so worried about being perfect. So worried about getting canceled on a social media. So worried about what they're going to say and who's going to say. And now majority of people are all stuck within this box or within this kind of guideline and standard that says, well, you can't go too far this way. You can't go too far that way. You got to stay within this range. Yeah. And I mean, it just, it's, it's just pussy shit, man. Like, like no one, no one great ever did that. Yeah. No one great ever stayed in that box.
Yeah. And dude, I just, so I think a couple of things that just really hit home for me last week and just seeing it in real time is authentic. Authenticity is the highest frequency you can buy with another human being. But another thing is like this week I had someone that I was pretty close to commit suicide and extremely successful guy. It still doesn't make any fucking sense to me. And I talked about this last week. Obviously, it hadn't happened before I got on stage. But the thing, too, is that when you're not living in your authenticity, right, and you're afraid to go find that savage, I think you're not happy. And, you know, I will tell you guys from personal experience, like money definitely is a tool and money can certainly change things in your life. But if you don't kind of back to what you're saying, if you seek external validation, you'll never be happy. Right. And, you know, my grandparents died very poor. I mean, I had the opportunity to retire them. and put them in a new house, but they died poor, but they both died very happy. They're very happy people. And I just I think right now, especially no one we don't talk about this enough. of all the shit that's out there like whatever you're doing. If you're listening to this like you should do what the fuck makes you happy and you should stop giving a fuck about all the other dumb shit because and I talked about this on stage like like are you chasing the real like are you chasing the real dream, right? Like is it the dream you really want or is it manufactured or whatever because true happiness and true peace and I believe this is, you know, we have this we have this phrase nowadays of like alpha male. Well, I don't think you're an alpha male if you're not, you're not happy internally. Do you know what I mean? Not at all.
You know, I think that what happens is, is when you have folks being asked, what makes you happy? The, they go to the default answer. They go to the answer of, you know, cars, money, jewels, financial freedom, and all these, these things that just get thrown out there loosely. And they don't take the time to sit back and really dive into what makes them happy, or they take for granted what they're doing, not realizing that is not going to happen. Not sitting in gratitude. Correct. Yeah. So then what happens is they're chasing, in my opinion, they're chasing these, you know, things that they've been conditioned to say that this is my true happiness. And to become a slave to it and to become a slave to their circumstance, to their situation. You know, one of the things on me being an entrepreneur that, you know, I just will not do is I'm not going to be a slave to the business and slave to the money.
Right.
Because I know what makes me happy. You know, I know I love look, I love the. You know what I mean? Now, obviously I can't party like I do.
So there's, you know, so there's some real shit to that, right? Like the part of your vibe and your sauce is like, Hey, I want to go on vacation. I want to do this. I want to do that. And, um. You know, a good point of that is like, who gives a fuck if someone judges you? Like, shut the fuck up. Like, if that's what, if that's what makes you happy and that's what gets you excited, like people say to me, man, you work too much, you this, you that, but what they don't really understand is that's actually my happiness, right? That's actually my obsession. you like to go on vacation and do stuff, right? And again, that's your vibe and there's nothing fucking wrong with that. And I just think people are, you know, when, when I was at the conference last week and so many people came up to me afterwards and like, may your message resonate resonated with me so much and the people that I had time to talk to, I was like, well, why? And they were like, well, you know, I feel like I'm living my life for other people. I'm not I'm not making choices for myself. I'm not this. I'm not that. And, you know, I was full Ric Flair dog, three fucking diamond chains, Versace down. And people were like, you know, I would be afraid to dress like that. And that's like. Man, that sucks. You know what I mean? And it's like, because why? Because you give a shit. And I said on stage, a lot of you motherfuckers probably judge me if you don't know me before I got on stage. And then when I started talking, you listen because you realize I had some value to share.
Absolutely. And I want to say something to your point. Could you imagine a life? of happiness for you or for myself if you didn't work or if I didn't go on vacation. No, I couldn't do it. Correct.
Yeah. What would you do?
What would we do if I was strictly business all the time? Correct. We're bored. We're unhappy. We're all the things that we're hearing a hundred percent. Well, yeah, probably you would be jailed. Drinking again, you know what I mean? But could you imagine like a life, and this is to the listeners too, like think about the things that you really love to do that you're so embarrassed about, that you're so ashamed about, or you don't want to admit out loud because you want to fit this box where you put yourself in, right? Right now, the most highest form of attention to get is authenticity.
100%.
Is authenticity. And I'm going to go on a tangent real quick because You know, we've seen in the past, I'd say three to four years, a lot of exposure where people are getting exposed, right?
Well, yeah, everybody had the COVID money.
Correct. The COVID money, the influencer money and all this stuff. Who are people really listening to? People really are listening to the people that are staying true to themselves. The people that are in the trenches that build something. I mean, people that have a couple of gray hairs in their whiskers and a couple of, you know, some age, that's who they're listening to. The Andy Fraselas, the Ed Morris, the David Goggins, you know, all these names that these guys that you know have been through it, and they've got the receipts to back it up. And I'm not discrediting anybody out there, but you can tell guys like that, they've got some time under their belt, they've seasoned, they've been through the fire, they've come back, and what are they doing? They're living their authentic self. And they understand what makes them happy and they understand what makes them tick. And, you know, I couldn't see a guy like Goggins not doing pull-ups and not running. Right. What would he be doing? What would you be doing? Listen to this. If you weren't doing what you absolutely love.
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And falling, excuse me, falling into that trap is a very normal and common thing. Yeah. Like so many people don't want to have, they don't want to go through the pains that you go through, not talking about all the struggles, but like, look, we've all done it. We've all assumed our identity as one thing and found that we weren't happy. Right. But with the, with the amount of information and amount of things that you can go like this podcast right here in our conversation right here, you know, that other people, you're not alone and other people are going through that. Right.
And by the way, your problems are not unique to you. We all go through it. No one posts their fucking failures. No, it's the same.
It's the same thing. Things are really hard. You got through it. You're now you're doing your thing. Things get really hard. You got through it. Now you're doing anything. It's the same thing all over. And I think that it's a travesty to. Act like you're somebody special and act like you don't have the availability of other testimonies, other stories, other people that you can learn from and say, man, look, I'm not alone. I'm not alone on this. I got to figure out how to pivot. I got to figure out what I can do. If I got to hire a coach, if I got to get in a room, if I got to do whatever I need to do, I'm not alone on the way that I'm feeling, especially being in business or any other leadership role. And then I can make something happen to something different. But that fear. That fear is what's stopping most people because they think that if they tell somebody their vulnerability or tell people they're unhappy or admit to themselves in the mirror that they're unhappy, they think that their whole world is going to come crushing down. When in reality, there's so much freedom and liberation in that. It's the healthiest thing you can do.
100%.
Yeah. And another thing that, you know, I just kind of wanted to address and talk about today too, is that You know, the thing is, the really successful people that I've ever been around are internal optimists. And so the other day, I was actually talking to my CFO. For those that you guys don't know me, she is not the internal optimist, but that's also, I pay her to not be, right? If you got a good CFO, the world's fucking always falling in their fucking mind. Because they're watching the goddamn money, which is what you want them to be. But we were talking about this friend of mine who committed suicide and I said, I just can't see in any circumstances going to that dark of a place. And she said, she said, well, you know what? You in any situation always feel like that there's a way out and you always find a way out. And so what I want, everybody here to listen to and get the meaning behind this is a lot of things in your life come from programming, from your parents, from school, from whatever. And a lot of it's bullshit. And there is always a way out, in my opinion. And like, I think you just have to, I just, I'm going to say it how I fucking believe it. You can interpret it how you want it. you just got to stop being a little bitch. Like when shit gets rough, you got two voices, one saying, I can't get through this, this is too hard, this is this. And you got the other one, which is the savage saying, man the fuck up or woman the fuck up.
And- Well, I want to interrupt you on that because I have another side of that and sorry to cut you off. But also I want to echo this is I don't give a fuck how bad it is or what depths you feel like or why you think that this world would be better off without you. You're a hundred percent wrong a hundred percent of the time.
Well, and I think to diverge on that, like on some real shit, if you're going through some shit and you're that dark, reach out to someone and have a conversation. I didn't even get a chance to tell you this. And I got to be careful what I say because I don't want to disclose too much. But I missed my flight going to Salt Lake City and I had I was the closing keynote the next day. So I wasn't stressed. I didn't stress about it. And my driver was with me and I was supposed to be on the flight. And somebody that I coach that is a pretty big deal, that's you'll never see it on social media or you'll never see it talk. you'll never see me talk about it, but he did allow me to share part of this is I met him because he was an addict and very successful person. He saw me speak on stage and he asked me to coach him out of it. This was five years ago. I've been coaching this guy for five years and he called me. I was supposed to be on the flight and he texted me and said, Brandon, I need to talk to you. Now I want like it's emergency. And I got on the phone with him and he's like, dude, I just, he's like, I relapsed. Right. And was very dark. And thank thank God I was able to talk to him. And I got I got on the other side of it. But the whole point of that story is, you know, I where I went with him was and this goes back to the the love and the loving yourself. I knew I couldn't be Savage Brandon that day. Like I knew I couldn't be like, yeah, stop being a bitch. And the first place I went to, I was like, bro, look at all the good shit you got in your life. Look at all the things you've achieved. Look at it. And I because I got to Indiana. I got to be careful what I say because I don't want people to put two and two together. But bottom line was we went to all the good and I made him sit in gratitude. Right. And he relapsed. He made a mistake. And what I got him pretty quickly to like, fuck, dude, I didn't I didn't really think about this. You know, I was acting on emotion. And, um, the point, the reason why I'm saying this is because if you, if you are going through some shit and it's that bad, reach out and have a conversation with somebody. Do you know what I mean? Like, because that's what you need to do. I've dealt with, I've had multiple people that I've loved commit suicide. And, um, you know, there's things behind that mental illness and just other shit. But I'm just saying, if you're in a spot like that, like you're in a bad spot mentally, you just, you need to have a conversation with somebody. Hey, let me tell you about my good friend Jeff Hyatt over at MSC Consultants and check out his episode if you've missed it. With today's volatile interest rate environment, real estate investors are looking for every advantage legally available. More and more are realizing that accelerating depreciation allows them to free up cash flow. enabling them to acquire their next property sooner. MSC's approach to cost segs is the answer. If you've got properties out there you haven't done cost segs on, you're paying too much in taxes. MSC's approach to cost segs is the answer. Visit them at www.costsegs.com. That's www.costsegs.com and ask for my good friend Jeff Hyatt.
What's incredible about that story is I know your time. Yeah. And how and obviously you were supposed to be on a plane at that time.
Yeah. Well, I would have been on the plane.
Correct.
Yeah.
There's so many.
And I don't believe in coincidence.
No, no, not at all. I don't either. There's so many purpose driven things that that happened on that moment. And here's the thing. You know, whoever that individual is, you know, had they not reached out to you, and something went wrong, the works went wrong. I mean, imagine not only what they've done to their families and their organizations, but also to you. I mean, that's another impact where you're like, dude, you should have just called me. You should have just called me. You should have reached out. This is not, we're not back in the sixties and forties and 1800s or whatever years. We're in a day and age where we know everything. We are overloaded with information. So, you know, whatever weird thing you got going on in your mind that you're embarrassed of, there's books and websites dedicated to it.
Well, there's a lot of people that are probably doing it. You're not alone.
No, no. And so the amount of judgment that people think that they're going to face It's so crazy to me because it seems like as much information as we know and as much stuff is out there and all this that we accept for people that wasn't accepted years ago, centuries ago, it's like the fear of judgment is even higher.
Well, and here's the thing. You can be an absolute savage and you can make a mistake or have a bad day. We're getting to a bad situation and that's all part of it. But I think the baseline for you have to be an internal optimist. You have to feel that there's a way out and you just have to come from the like a fear is fear is such a. It's an emotion and it's a thought process that a lot of time we're manifesting that's not real. And like, for instance, for those of you that are in the entrepreneur world, I think sometimes we don't give ourselves enough credit. Like if you ever had an idea in your head and you brought it to life in real life. Like, fuck, dude, there's so many people that will never do that. And a lot of times where we struggle is we struggle on not the gain of where we made it, but the gap of where we think we are right of the gap of where we want to go. We're not there yet. And we and we tend not to focus on the gain of where we've actually gotten to. And again, I just think. I think you should wake up every day, be doing the shit you wanna do to be happy because that's true. You can have a shit ton of money and not be happy and it's all for nothing, right? And you can be doing shit that you absolutely hate and it's all for nothing. But I also think that a lot of this comes down to you gotta have the savage fucking mindset, but you have to have the duality of the empathy and the love side, right? Which for me was hard to learn for, a really long time because I didn't believe any of that shit. I can believe I believe in it now, but I just think so many people are missing the boat on that. But they're also missing the not living in their authentic self. They don't believe in their self enough. And then you got to have that self-belief.
Yeah. Savage doesn't mean you go out here and do, you know, crazy sprints, fight in a cage, you know, all this shit that social media tries to paint a picture. Savageness means that you just don't give a fuck. You're going to do what you need to do, how you need to do it, no matter what for the people that you care about. And I also believe in for, for others and strangers, just because that's my, my, my vibe. That's what savage means. So many people get these words mixed up, like thinking that they have to be somebody they're not just being yourself. I knew some very mild mannered, a beta type of man, if you want to describe it that way, and women that are absolute savages in their own space. And they're respected amongst that and appreciated amongst that way more than them trying to be something they're not. And when you do tap into that level, and here's the thing. A lot of the entrepreneurs and business owners listening to this have already activated that trait in some sort of space in their life. They've already done it. They've already had some sort of space where they've acted like a complete savage, found success, or found the idea that they made come true, or whatever the case may be. but yet are fearful of doing it in other places. You talk about faith, right? And whoever you pray to, I have no problem with that. But at the end of the day, when you talk about faith, so many people struggle with giving themselves up to their higher power because they think that that day life starts over and now they have to live this perfect life. And that's the same kind of thing as being a savage or walking to your purpose or anything. Like when you do give it up to whatever it is you're giving it up to, faith, love, family, whatever, dude, you're actually practicing day one of being that motherfucker that you wanna be. And people struggle with that. People struggle with that idea and they sit in a space where they don't act and then it compounds the emotional, toil, the emotional side takes its toll. You know, the being an entrepreneur and being a business owner is extremely lonely. You know, you can have all the friends on hard. You can have all the friends you want. You can have all the family you want, all the rah rah, all the haters, whatever, all that stuff that you can have. And at the end of the day, you still feel like you're on an island by yourself. All these things, all these things add up over time. If you're not taking that step into that space where you need to be. And that's when unfortunately the bad thoughts, the dark times and the things start to add up.
Well, it's the it's the conversation you have with yourself every day. And again, I think that's the the happiness internally and I'm gonna wrap it on this. So here's a exercise I did when I was in Salt Lake, you know, 500 people there. And I said, turn it to the audience. Hey, everybody named three things you love, right? And so everybody's like family, you know, wife, kids, all that. And we're going and going and going. Right. And out of five hundred people, only one person got that answer. Right. And only one person said this. What's it? And then I went, everybody's going. Yeah. So what's what's number one? What's it? Everybody's number one family. family, this, that. No, they're all wrong. Number one is you.
Do you know what I mean?
And so in a room full of entrepreneurs, you know, type A motherfuckers, badass motherfuckers, everybody else forgot that it's the intern, right? Number one is you. And so it's one of those things where I love me some me, right? You too. And, but I, I can't love my family, my business, the people that work for me, any of that. If internally, I don't have the love for myself because that's where you're going to be fucked up and you're going to be off center. And so that was, you know, one of the messages I wanted to get out to our audience today is like, If you don't love yourself, man, like you gotta have an honest conversation. Like what the fuck are you doing?
And if you don't love yourself and you think and say you love so many other people more, remember this, you're only giving those people a half-ass effort. Correct. Because you're not fully in love with yourself and filling your cup and all those things. So therefore you're truly not giving the people the help and the love that they truly deserve. Yeah. You're right. You're a hundred percent right, dude. It starts with yourself.
Well, guys, you know, we try to keep these kind of short so you guys can digest them. Got to have a great conversation with you guys as normal when Brandon comes on here. Again, thank you guys so, so much for your support. Check Brandon out. He's got his own podcast. Yep. Champ Talk with Branden Hudson. We're on all platforms.
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